Armor - Revision history

Ryo Sangnoir: /* Negative */ Ghost Outfit

2025-11-20T11:46:15Z

Negative: Ghost Outfit

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	{{TableRowItem\|Gambling Token}}		{{TableRowItem\|Gambling Token}}
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	{{TableRowItem\|Glass Cannon}}		{{TableRowItem\|Glass Cannon}}
	{{TableRowItem\|Gummy Berserker}}		{{TableRowItem\|Gummy Berserker}}

Dribble7631: Correct relative damage reduction for positive armor example (17%/50% = 34%)

2025-10-16T06:34:24Z

Correct relative damage reduction for positive armor example (17%/50% = 34%)

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	If you have negative armor, the damage you take is instead increased by the percentage. Where +15 armor would give 50% damage reduction, -15 armor means you takes 150% damage.		If you have negative armor, the damage you take is instead increased by the percentage. Where +15 armor would give 50% damage reduction, -15 armor means you takes 150% damage.

	This means that negative armor, unlike positive armor, has strong diminishing returns. Going from 50% damage reduction to 67% (going from 15 to 30 armor) means you take 50% less damage than you were previously. But going from -15 to -30 armor means going from taking 150% to taking 167% damage, which means you just take a relative 11% more damage than before.		This means that negative armor, unlike positive armor, has strong diminishing returns. Going from 50% damage reduction to 67% (going from 15 to 30 armor) means you take 34% less damage than you were previously. But going from -15 to -30 armor means going from taking 150% to taking 167% damage, which means you just take a relative 11% more damage than before.

	As a result, when you play {{CharacterIcon\|Ghost}}, who starts with -100 armor (taking 187% damage), it doesn't make a notable difference if you gain +10 or -10 additional armor: it only changes the damage you take between 186% to 188%.		As a result, when you play {{CharacterIcon\|Ghost}}, who starts with -100 armor (taking 187% damage), it doesn't make a notable difference if you gain +10 or -10 additional armor: it only changes the damage you take between 186% to 188%.

Vergir: /* Formulas & Values */ added formula for negative armor

2025-01-13T16:25:46Z

Formulas & Values: added formula for negative armor

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	== Formulas & Values ==		== Formulas & Values ==

	The ~~formula used by the~~ game for ~~calculating Armor's damage reduction value is:~~		The game uses different formulas for positive and negative values for armor.

	<pre>% ~~Damage taken~~ after armor = 1 / ( 1 + ( ARMOR / 15 ) )		<pre>% of damage received after being reduced by positive armor = 1 / ( 1 + ( ARMOR / 15 ) )

			% of damage received after being increased by negative armor = (15 - 2 * ARMOR) / (15 - ARMOR)

	Tooltip for Damage Reduction % = ROUND( ( 1 - ( DmgReceived% ) ) * 100 )</pre>		Tooltip for Damage Reduction % = ROUND( ( 1 - ( DmgReceived% ) ) * 100 )</pre>

ArosRising: /* Negative Armor */

2024-11-12T15:43:45Z

Negative Armor

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	This means that negative armor, unlike positive armor, has strong diminishing returns. Going from 50% damage reduction to 67% (going from 15 to 30 armor) means you take 50% less damage than you were previously. But going from -15 to -30 armor means going from taking 150% to taking 167% damage, which means you just take a relative 11% more damage than before.		This means that negative armor, unlike positive armor, has strong diminishing returns. Going from 50% damage reduction to 67% (going from 15 to 30 armor) means you take 50% less damage than you were previously. But going from -15 to -30 armor means going from taking 150% to taking 167% damage, which means you just take a relative 11% more damage than before.

	As a result, when you play [[Ghost]], who starts with -100 armor (taking 187% damage), it doesn't make a notable difference if you gain +10 or -10 additional armor: it only changes the damage you take between 186% to 188%.		As a result, when you play {{CharacterIcon\|Ghost}}, who starts with -100 armor (taking 187% damage), it doesn't make a notable difference if you gain +10 or -10 additional armor: it only changes the damage you take between 186% to 188%.

	== Items ==		== Items ==

ArosRising: /* Effective HP */

2024-11-12T15:43:07Z

Effective HP

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	Another example: If you have 100 Max HP and 0 armor, it takes 100 damage to kill you. But if you have 5 armor, you reduce the damage by 25%, so now it takes ''100/0.75=133'' damage to kill you. This amount of theoretical damage it takes to kill you is called 'Effective HP'.		Another example: If you have 100 Max HP and 0 armor, it takes 100 damage to kill you. But if you have 5 armor, you reduce the damage by 25%, so now it takes ''100/0.75=133'' damage to kill you. This amount of theoretical damage it takes to kill you is called 'Effective HP'.

	Meaning for every 100 Max HP you have, each 5 points of armor allows you to take an additional 33 damage before dying. Said another way, each point of armor increases your Effective HP by 6.66%.		Meaning for every 100 Max HP you have, each 5 points of armor allows you to take an additional 33 damage before dying. Said another way, 5 armor increases your Effective HP by 33%, and each point of armor increases your Effective HP by 6.66%.

	=== Negative Armor ===		=== Negative Armor ===

ArosRising: /* Formulas & Values */

2024-11-12T15:40:47Z

Formulas & Values

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	It can be clearly seen here that it takes 15 armor to doubles your HP. And that the Tooltip rounds the number to the nearest %		It can be clearly seen here that it takes 15 armor to doubles your HP. And that the Tooltip rounds the number to the nearest %

			=== Rounding ===
			The Tooltip for the Damage Reduction from Armor rounds to the nearest whole %. However, the actual damage reduction the game uses does not round, and instead uses the precise number.

			Also note that [[Enemies#Enemies\|enemy damage]] is rounded before armor is calculated. So if an enemy would deal 1.6 damage, that is rounded up to 2 damage, ''then'' armor is applied to the 2 damage. And then that number is rounded. So you need 6+ armor to reduce 2 damage down to 1, because you need to reduce it to under 1.5 damage for it to round down.

			=== Tables ===

	This table shows various damage reduction values with different Armor stats. The Dmg Reduction is the one shown by the tooltip. Below is the actual EHP granted by that amount of armor.		This table shows various damage reduction values with different Armor stats. The Dmg Reduction is the one shown by the tooltip. Below is the actual EHP granted by that amount of armor.

ArosRising: /* Rounding */

2024-11-12T15:40:21Z

Rounding

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	As a result, when you play [[Ghost]], who starts with -100 armor (taking 187% damage), it doesn't make a notable difference if you gain +10 or -10 additional armor: it only changes the damage you take between 186% to 188%.		As a result, when you play [[Ghost]], who starts with -100 armor (taking 187% damage), it doesn't make a notable difference if you gain +10 or -10 additional armor: it only changes the damage you take between 186% to 188%.

	~~=== Rounding ===~~
	~~The Tooltip for the Damage Reduction from Armor rounds to the nearest whole %. However, the actual damage reduction the game uses does not round, and instead uses the precise number.~~

	Also note that [[Enemies#Enemies\|enemy damage]] is rounded before armor is calculated. So if an enemy would deal 1.6 damage, that is rounded up to 2 damage, ''then'' armor is applied to the 2 damage. And then that number is rounded. So you need 6+ armor to reduce 2 damage down to 1, because you need to reduce it to under 1.5 damage for it to round down.

	== Items ==		== Items ==

ArosRising: /* Formulas & Values */

2024-11-12T15:39:30Z

Formulas & Values

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	The formula used by the game for calculating Armor's damage reduction value is:		The formula used by the game for calculating Armor's damage reduction value is:

	<pre> % Damage taken after armor = 1 / ( 1 + ( ARMOR / 15 ) )		<pre>% Damage taken after armor = 1 / ( 1 + ( ARMOR / 15 ) )

	Tooltip for Damage Reduction % = ROUND( ( 1 - ( DmgReceived% ) ) * 100 )</pre>		Tooltip for Damage Reduction % = ROUND( ( 1 - ( DmgReceived% ) ) * 100 )</pre>

ArosRising: /* Weapons */

2024-11-12T15:38:41Z

Weapons

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	==Weapons==		==Weapons==

	~~These [[Weapons]] affect~~ Armor:		Rock Gives additional Armor at higher tiers.

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	~~These~~ [[~~Weapons~~]] ~~use your Armor stat to deal more damage:~~		Spiky shield uses your Armor to scale its damage instead of [[Melee Damage]]

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ArosRising: /* Mechanics */

2024-11-11T13:58:16Z

Mechanics

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	{{TableRowItem\|Anvil}}		{{TableRowItem\|Anvil}}
			{{TableRowItem\|Ashes}}
	{{TableRowItem\|Stone Skin}}		{{TableRowItem\|Stone Skin}}
	</table>		</table>

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	{{TableRowItem\|Community Support}}		{{TableRowItem\|Community Support}}
	{{TableRowItem\|Gambling Token}}		{{TableRowItem\|Gambling Token}}
			{{TableRowItem\|Ghost Outfit}}
	{{TableRowItem\|Glass Cannon}}		{{TableRowItem\|Glass Cannon}}
	{{TableRowItem\|Gummy Berserker}}		{{TableRowItem\|Gummy Berserker}}

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	{{TableRowItem\|Anvil}}		{{TableRowItem\|Anvil}}
			{{TableRowItem\|Ashes}}
	{{TableRowItem\|Stone Skin}}		{{TableRowItem\|Stone Skin}}
	</table>		</table>